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  • Given the low payout, have you been looking at other ways to grow and develop your dairy business? What are you considering?

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  • Taratahi here in northland doing a bee keeping course here every 2nd sat All ab no bulls .

  • I'm really interested in hearing more about what arrangements people have with their beekeepers and what contracts are available so I have just created a new topic in General to continue the bee discussion...

  • @Garnerdale Do you think farm owners are better off selling the beef calves as 4-day olds or rearing them to 100kg? And will you be doing AB for your whole mating period this year or will you be using Hereford bulls (and then back to AB for the SGL Kiwicross)?

  • @Ywari-Farms Really interesting stuff! Totally agree that a good contract would be vital.

  • Honey good option for the areas of the farm not really viable for cows . plant in manuka . flowering the next year . Or plant your riparian strips . Or just rear extra beef calves if farm owners . We are going to shorten our ab for prem sires and then all beef straws in past 6 wks ab and 6 wks bulls . this year 4 wks ab prem sires then 6 wks hfd followed by 2 wks sgl kiwi x

  • @Ywari-Farms Thanks for the advise. One of the family is doing a bee keeping course at the moment, so investigations continue.

  • @SP99 Bees aren't really a fan of Manuka, they will fly up to 2km to source other food before they eat it, so it needs to be a large area to get the good manuka production. Like anything always do lots of investigating before you make a decision. We have just harvested some pines and talked options but decided to put it back into trees.

  • @Anna The Honey company puts their hives on your property, they would normally pay a retainer per hive then a percentage of the production of that hive. Usually payment is made once a year once they know what the hive has produced. It is best to talk to a variety of companies to get a feel for who you can work with and maybe someone who has been in the industry for a while then you know they know what they are doing. Hive health is important and you want people coming onto your property who understand what it means to maintain healthy environments. Have a contract with a good understanding of the expectation from both sides.

  • We have a large stand of pine trees that are nearly ready for harvest, so the thoughts are to replace these with Manuka and put hives out in those. I am not sure if charging a fee for apiarists would be viable for either party?

  • So how would it work with the Honey, is it simply allowing existing honey companies to have hives on the property in return for a fee? Or is it more than that?

  • @Anna Anything and everything. Of course Manuka Honey seems to be the flavour of the month (no pun intended), but there have been many discussions on the farm here.

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